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For years spiritualists have embraced certain occult philosophies and yet often feel it is shrouded in darkness. This is often based on superstition and not any truth.

Nturally through any spiritual practises you can attach negative elements. However in this age the highest cause of this seems to be vai the Ouja Boeard, created by spiritulists and not occultists.

This is not the blame the spiritual community it just show that dabbling without being careful or acquiring enough knowledge first can be dangerous.

Any thoughts?

Richard
Jul 19, 2008
3:13 AM
Ouja Boeard....
what is this ?
I don't know exactly what occultism means.. everything that provide any power can be dangerous, as well driving, using electricity or more mysterious natural or surnatural forces...
a spiritual vision can only tell that in any case intention must be neat. Purification of intention could be another definition of the spiritual way.
Jul 20, 2008
1:31 PM
Yes Richard superstition is a disease that enslaves people, and thanks to churchianity and her devil I think many people still suffer from it. The truth is without occult/esoteric philosophy people will not know anything properly about their beliefs or practices.
In my opinion there is nothing positive about the ouija board and it is not a spiritual practice.
I think it looks like an occult art but certainly it is not practical occultism.

Jeanmarc, genuine occultism simply means genuine Yoga, again thanks to the church some people think it's a halloween party.
Posted by Alex 
Jul 26, 2008
3:07 AM
My reason for asking was I find a lot of spiritualists still dont quite get that.

Ouja boards were made around the 19th century as we know them now and I agree they are not safe. The Ouja board was made by the spirutualist movement but that does not make it a spiritual vessel
Jul 28, 2008
4:41 AM
i've heard that people shall stay away from such things as Ouja boards. The can open doors not meant to be open. But many use it for curiosity.
Aug 1, 2008
5:27 PM
well,
Richard if i see a car from the side i will see the dorrs, from the back i will see the trunk, from the front ill see the shape of the light and engine protected.
this point of view because the person didnt see it spiritually, i guess partially its the way to see and perceive what it is.

for me i would rather see it from the sources. so maybe one day i can see the whole car.
Posted by isa 
Sep 16, 2008
8:18 AM
Hello Richards, I would like to add to this, I got this off the net. I myself used one years ago and did not like what happened, so that was the end of that, one has to be very careful.
Hope it helps.
L&L Jean :)

Question: Is the Ouija board dangerous?

Answer: Most paranormal researchers advise against the casual use of the Ouija board, suggesting that it can be a doorway to unknown dimensions. “The board itself is not dangerous, but the form of communication that you are attempting often is," says Ghost researcher Dale Kaczmarek of the Ghost Research Society. "Most often the spirits whom are contacted through the Ouija are those whom reside on 'the lower astral plane.' These spirits are often very confused and may have died a violent or sudden death; murder, suicide, etc. Therefore, many violent, negative and potentially dangerous conditions are present to those using the board. Often times several spirits will attempt to come through at the same time but the real danger lies when you ask for physical proof of their existence! You might say, 'Well, if you're really a spirit, then put out this light or move that object!' What you have just done is simple, you have 'opened a doorway' and allowed them to enter into the physical world and future problems can and often do arise."

But what if the Ouija really does not contact spirits? What if it only accesses our own subconscious? The advice might be the same. Since there are relatively few accounts of positive, uplifting experiences with the Ouija, and many negative ones, we might assume that it more attuned to the negative aspects of our subconscious.

If you're determined to use the Ouija anyway, it is highly recommended that you follow some rules of precaution:

Begin by announcing that the session will only allow an experience that is positive or toward a higher good and that negative energies are not welcome.
Don't ask for physical signs.
When you're done, close the board. This is an important step. When you're done with your session, slide the planchette to 'GOODBYE' and remove your hands.
Sep 19, 2008
9:50 PM
have a new book out, title Jealousy Begoth hatred.

you can read the preface and some of part one.

if you are intrested to have one copy or more feel free to contact me.
if you like to know the secrite behide the spirit of love,and the power behide it when we pratice and show it among ourself.
you should need a copy of this book, trust me.
enjoy your reading.



JEALOUSY BEGOTH HATRED




PREFACE


LONG TIME AGO, THERE WAS A GARDEN LOCATED IN THE CENTER OF THIS WORLD.

The maker of all things made everything for the benefit of everything that existed on the face of the earth.

The Lord made man in his image after his likeness.

Everything that the Lord made has soul, spirit, and body. The soul is immortal and the real image of his creatures, the spirit, signify the ever-presence of the Lord, while the body is the cloth that covers all of his creatures in this physical world.

He gave dominion to mankind and made man more intelligent above all other things he made on the face of this earth.

He made everything for everything; he made the garden for mankind to live and dominate.

The garden was prepared with everything: plants, animals for food, water for drink, sun to give light in the day, and the moon and stars to give light at night.

He also made everything male and female. Nature is the only thing in this world that never lies.

The Lord made man and woman to live in the garden. They lived with love, peace, and happiness according to the will of the Lord.

One night, the Lord made the man and his wife have the same dream at the same time; where the spirit of hatred promised to enter into their world and take power from mankind.

The man was the king of the garden while his wife was the queen. They planned to practice and show love their entire life so that they would have everlasting peace in they spirit, soul, and body.

After some time, they give birth to their kind (twin boys). They were their first children and they taught their children how to practice and show love to one another.

When the family was beginning to multiply in number, the king discovered that he was getting old.

He then told his family that in every kingdom there were laws and rules that guided them.

He told them that when he died, his first son would be the next king to rule the kingdom.

That was how the twin brothers allowed the spirit of jealousy to take root.

He hated his twin brother with passion and had planned to kill him and enslave his family for his own selfish interest.

He later discovered the longest river in the world, crossed over it, and lived on the land. The king cast him out of the garden because of his bad attitude towards his twin brother.

He made his plan to conquer his twin brother and be the new king of the garden.





PART ONE





I

The name of the first man the Lord made was Papa, while the name of the first woman was Mama. They were the king and queen of the garden. They had dominion over all things in the garden.

After some time, they understood that one hand made all things. One night, they had the same dream. When they woke up in the morning, the king was meditating his dream. All of a sudden, his wife interrupted him, “Did you notice anything when you slept”? she asked the king.

“ I was about to ask you the same question. I saw you and me in another realm, which I guess must be the spiritual world.” He looked at his wife.

“ Yes, it is the spiritual world,” she said to her husband.

The king thought, “In the spiritual world, I discovered that there is total freedom; nothing can destroy the spirit. It was there before the beginning, and it will be there after the ending of the physical world.”

He told his wife about his dream. “I saw two groups in the spiritual world; one with the logo of love on them, while the other had the logo of hatred on them. The group with the logo of love was very kind to us in my dream. Yes, they save us from that jealous spirit of hatred,” the king said.

“ Yes, yes, yes I remember every bit of the dream now. We had the same dream at the same time. What a wonderful Lord. With him, everything is possible,” the queen said.
Sep 20, 2008
2:08 AM
have a new book out, title Jealousy Begoth hatred.

you can read the preface and some of part one.

if you are intrested to have one copy or more feel free to contact me.
if you like to know the secrite behide the spirit of love,and the power behide it when we pratice and show it among ourself.
you should need a copy of this book, trust me.
enjoy your reading.



JEALOUSY BEGOTH HATRED




PREFACE


LONG TIME AGO, THERE WAS A GARDEN LOCATED IN THE CENTER OF THIS WORLD.

The maker of all things made everything for the benefit of everything that existed on the face of the earth.

The Lord made man in his image after his likeness.

Everything that the Lord made has soul, spirit, and body. The soul is immortal and the real image of his creatures, the spirit, signify the ever-presence of the Lord, while the body is the cloth that covers all of his creatures in this physical world.

He gave dominion to mankind and made man more intelligent above all other things he made on the face of this earth.

He made everything for everything; he made the garden for mankind to live and dominate.

The garden was prepared with everything: plants, animals for food, water for drink, sun to give light in the day, and the moon and stars to give light at night.

He also made everything male and female. Nature is the only thing in this world that never lies.

The Lord made man and woman to live in the garden. They lived with love, peace, and happiness according to the will of the Lord.

One night, the Lord made the man and his wife have the same dream at the same time; where the spirit of hatred promised to enter into their world and take power from mankind.

The man was the king of the garden while his wife was the queen. They planned to practice and show love their entire life so that they would have everlasting peace in they spirit, soul, and body.

After some time, they give birth to their kind (twin boys). They were their first children and they taught their children how to practice and show love to one another.

When the family was beginning to multiply in number, the king discovered that he was getting old.

He then told his family that in every kingdom there were laws and rules that guided them.

He told them that when he died, his first son would be the next king to rule the kingdom.

That was how the twin brothers allowed the spirit of jealousy to take root.

He hated his twin brother with passion and had planned to kill him and enslave his family for his own selfish interest.

He later discovered the longest river in the world, crossed over it, and lived on the land. The king cast him out of the garden because of his bad attitude towards his twin brother.

He made his plan to conquer his twin brother and be the new king of the garden.





PART ONE





I

The name of the first man the Lord made was Papa, while the name of the first woman was Mama. They were the king and queen of the garden. They had dominion over all things in the garden.

After some time, they understood that one hand made all things. One night, they had the same dream. When they woke up in the morning, the king was meditating his dream. All of a sudden, his wife interrupted him, “Did you notice anything when you slept”? she asked the king.

“ I was about to ask you the same question. I saw you and me in another realm, which I guess must be the spiritual world.” He looked at his wife.

“ Yes, it is the spiritual world,” she said to her husband.

The king thought, “In the spiritual world, I discovered that there is total freedom; nothing can destroy the spirit. It was there before the beginning, and it will be there after the ending of the physical world.”

He told his wife about his dream. “I saw two groups in the spiritual world; one with the logo of love on them, while the other had the logo of hatred on them. The group with the logo of love was very kind to us in my dream. Yes, they save us from that jealous spirit of hatred,” the king said.

“ Yes, yes, yes I remember every bit of the dream now. We had the same dream at the same time. What a wonderful Lord. With him, everything is possible,” the queen said.
Sep 20, 2008
2:09 AM
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